Pythagorean discussion topics

1. Discuss Pythagorean notions of mathematics, and how these influenced their philosophical vision. Does mathematics indicate to us something essential about the meaning of the universe and human life? How is mathematics related to the Pythagorean notion of the “liberation” of the soul? Why would scientific study be relevant to a religious view of the universe and human life?

2. Discuss the Pythagorean notion of the human being, as an "immortal soul" inhabiting a mortal body, and the related idea of reincarnation. Is the human person something more than a rational animal? Compare the Pythagorean idea of life and the afterlife to the Christian idea.

3. Discuss the Pythagorean concept of living a deliberate or 'philosophical' life. Should someone who wants to live a truly good life live in accordance with a very rigorous, religious or ethical doctrine? Is there a right path for living, and if so, what is it? Discuss possible roles for spiritual or disciplinary practices, vegetarianism, communal or interpersonal relations, spiritual studies, etc.

4. What is the relationship between philosophy and community? What kind of institutions should communities who want a truly good society have? Is there a right path for communal living, and if so, what is it? [In other words, is there an ideal society? Should we live according to a more communal sharing model, as opposed to our own, individualistic and competitive idea?]

5. Take one of the first 6 "sayings" on the DD reading and discuss its double meaning, and how this "maxim" or proverb might fit into the daily spiritual life of a Pythagorean 'mystes' (initiate). How does it connect him or her to knowledge? immortality? community?

• First and hardest: to listen.

• The soul is the guardian of the vessel (or: of the prison).

• [Contemplate] the white rooster.

• [Friends] do not divide bread.

• It is unholy to live in spotted garments.

• Straighten the bed when rising from it.

6. Take one of the last 6 "sayings" and discuss its double meaning, and how this "maxim" or proverb might fit into the daily spiritual life of a Pythagorean 'mystes' (initiate). How does it connect him or her to immortality? to community?  [note: Y symbolizes both a meeting of three roads or a choice of two paths, as well as the first letter of the Greek work "health" hygeia]

• Don't poke fire with a knife.

• Don't step over a broom or a yoke.

• Don't eat heart.

• Do not look into a mirror by night.

• Do not speak without light.

• Y.