Actual Interview

[The interview was not done in the order of the interview category sheet that was

issued. The questions here are in such a way that would suit the personality of the person

interviewed. The pattern creates logical connections to the information gained during the

interview.]

Interviewee: Thersia S. Farrior

Full Name: Thersia Mea Shepard Farrior

Date of Birth: September 3, 1917

Birth Place: Fisher Port Hampstead, North Carolina at the home of Demi Q Shepard and

Andrew J. Jackson

The responses typed are done with exact response, and corrections are going to be in bold italics following the grammatical

errors in brackets. Also, in brackets there is more information that she shared with me that is not on tape, which Z included

in this interview format.

1. Significant Life Influences: This section will describe the importance of the informants past

and present.

Response: "When the Lord saved me from my sin[Z938], I learned how to get through here,

[manage] and when my children came later on, I have four children, three girls and a boy and I

enjoy them, and they are everything I need; especially on holidays, we get together and we have

together. [Also] in church I have a good experience in church with the different sisters and

brother in church and . . . "[she enjoys going to church with other peers that are her age range

and those that she communicates with daily, about God and daily survival. My grandma has

been a Christian since she was 21 years of age and she believes that through faith, God can do

2. Life Satisfaction: This section describes what happiness is for her, what indicates loneliness,

what makes her feel isolated, and irritated etc.

Response: "At Christmas time the children and me [I] get together and we talk about different

things, have conversations and have fun and enjoy each other [one another]. Sometime, when

the grand children get to playing up [being disobedient] and they get on my nerves [wear out my

patients and irritate me]. I don’t have a lot of loneliness [I very seldom get lonely or-feel lonely,

because my children are always visiting me, and I pray a lot more than I did before my husband

died in 1998. This is comforting to me and I have always had faith in God that he would deliver

me in hard times.] and we get together and we have fun . . . "[back when all of the children were

little, I’ ll say back in the early 80’ s, when the grandchildren were little we would always have

Easter Egg Hunts for them, and during the summer Holidays it was a tradition to go places that

we had not been before the children and me and my husband. We would go to the beach, park,

out of state or to visit relatives and have cookouts and just enjoy the great summer weather that

God has given us.]

3. Social Networking: Socialization on a day-to-day basis, social contacts, social exchanges.

Response: "I talk to friends on the phone, [most often] I talk to my sister Zonnie, ( the only living

sister that I have)[Grandma had seven sisters and seven brothers, grandma and aunt Zonnie

were the babies of them all], We talk on the phone and sometimes I go down and spend time

with her and we talk and have fun the time that I am there and get along." [Aunt Zonnie still

resides in Hampstead, North Carolina. Grandma visits her often, two or three times every two

months. Going to church is something that she does on a weekly basis. Grandma attends Bible

Study, Sunday School, and regular Sunday Morning Worship. Grandma is thankful that her

health has allowed her to attend church as she wished. Also, during family gatherings grandma

tells stories of her long decided relative that came to America to pursue a new and prosperous

life and in return fell into the hands or slavery and brutality. Grandma often encourages us as

we the grandchildren, work hard and be all that we can be so that we could gain our earthly

prosperity and live harmoniously together without regret].

Her motto " Once you get something in your head, no one can take it from you!"

4. Employment History and Financial Matters: Work History, Age when a regular pay history

was established. The controlling of finances, in and outside of the home.

Response: "Yes, and sometime my children help me with the finances." [Grandma worked US a

baker, cook, and housekeeper. During the time that she was traveling with my grandad while he

was in the military, she did those types of services in shops and plantation owners homes for

survival. After grandad retired from the military, grandma was a fieldworker after moving to the

south and a homemaker, while my grandad, during his leisure time, sharecropped and fanned.

According to grandma, grandad was in charge of all the bills and utilities, and she took care of

what the children needs were, like clothing and activity involvements. Now, after the children

have grown older and moved on and gotten married with there own families, and granddad has

passed, grandma controls some of her assets, but not all of them because of her age. She does

need some assistance in doing business type transactions. She does admit, that my dad and his

sisters help her in paying her bills and getting things done that need to be. Grandma does in

return hold her own financial security with the bank and her future. She is proud that her home

is paid for and her car and she can live fairly well].

5. Leisure Time Activities: Memberships in organizations and formal groups. What a typical

day is like what a typical weekend is like for her.

Response: "Well, I was the Quilting Network coordinator, we would quilt for different ones

[needy people in the community and also for local fairs and contests] and they would be

beautiful quilts, we did that in the spring, [quilting in the spring was a tradition for the group

because during the spring they could go outside and quilt while the men were killing hogs for the

sale at the beginning of summer, they would also do special quilts for their families so the

grandchildren that were born could come home in a quilt] we would go out to dinners at

, different locations together." [The women that she quilted with, they would eat dinner at the local

cafeterias in town, that were for the blacks only, and they would eat at one-another home after

their husbands arrived home from work. Carrying covered dishes at this time was a big thing to

do. "This was during the 1920’ s and the 1930’ s that we had the club and doing different

casserole dishes and trying new recipes was the thing back then, " she said. And they would have

socials at church and have a great time]. Also during the day she cleans house when need be

and fixes her own meals per day and goes to the Seniors Center once a week.

6. Health Status: Heath status on a regular basis, what the health has been and what it is in this

present day. How does it compare to others her age?

Response : "Well before I got married my health was not really good, [she had various surgeries

on her intestines and she had very harsh child births] but the older I got the better my health

status was. I would not be worried about the doctor, after I got to be an elderly woman. I would

not have to go to the doctors a lot for elements and I would just go for a general check up or

something like that. I would not be hurting all of the time. I would be getting along fine."

[Grandma proclaims, "For a person my age I feel great, and considering the fact that I was at

death’ s door twice in one life time, I would say that I am blessed just be alive. "I Grandma had a

stroke and was pronounced dead. She was put in the morgue because her heart stopped and

they thought she was dead. Grandma often says that God had a purpose for her coming back to

life after a mere acquaintance with death.

7. Basic Life History

Response: "Well before the children, we would be different places, Colorado Springs and we

were there a while, we were in Texas and I was there with him everywhere and he was still in

service and a little while after he got out on retirement we bought a home and the children came

and we didn’t do anything else. He went back to finish up in the service and I stayed at home to

rear the children and after he retired he was home with me as well and we enjoyed each other and

we had great pleasure in rearing our children." [Grandma and grandad traveled most of their

young life. They went from Hampstead, to the Northwest, and from there to the Southwest, and

back to the East Coast from Maine to Florida, back to North Carolina where they originated, to

begin a family. Along with rearing children and taking care of the household during this time, in

the early 1940’ s and 1950’ s, together grandma and grandad began to build a home for

themselves and create a farm for the family. They at this time also joined a steady community, of

which they wanted to belong].

8. Attitude Toward Aging: What does it mean to her to be of the aged and how does it make

her feel?

Response: "Well I don’t feel out of order because I don’t feel like I use to. When I was in my 20’s

and 30’s I could get about better and I enjoyed life better and after I got into the 405-70’s I felt

better. Now [that] I have joined the 80’s I feel all right; sometimes I feel like I felt when I was

young. I know that I’ m not young anymore. I know that I can’t get around like I use to and I am

not as strong and young as I us to be and I take it easy to do what I need to do, like I need to do it

at the age that I am now [84]." [ Generally grandma smiled during this session of the interview

because she is very appreciative to have the chance to see one decade go out and another

decade come in she is appreciative because she is apart of the history that many of her family

members did not get a chance to experience] .

9. Sexuality and Intimacy: What is her sexual role as a basic human being, what is the current

attitude on sexuality and intimacy? .

Response: "I really don’t know how to come up with this here thing [grinning is happening] . . .

before my little baby [silence] especially since my husband passed [1 could see grievances on her

face, but she continued] . . . I’m not interested in sex and I do like company, I don’t concern my

self with loving and stuff like that."

10. Attitude on Bereavement and Death: How does death make you feel to have a personal

loss, the meaningfulness of you life approaching death?

Response: "Death makes you feel different because that one is gone and you grieve about the

death a while." [Grandma did not want to share a lot with me about death because she lost her

mother and father at a very young age therefore, she did not want to open up a wound that had

been healing for years. Also, out of fourteen siblings, there were only two of them left her sister

and her. Grandma, in the last ten years, lost two grandchildren, two nephews (one her brothers

son and the other her sisters son) and a niece ( which just died two weeks ago). This was a

subject that was causing her a little pain she even said, "I don’ t have a whole lot to say about

that."]

Life History Follow up: What was going on in the early 1900’s?

What was it like in your day to grow up?

Response: "No wars in U.S. some in the over seas, I don’t know what location, but I do know

what happened there . . . "

What did you do for fun as a child?

Response: "Me and my siblings [My siblings and I] we had fun playing ball, go and hide seek

[hide and go seek ]we wouldn’t be fighting we would get along together, we obeyed parents no

slipping out we would always stay around and about if our parents needed us and we would be

there."

[Grandma is and was very close to her sisters and her brothers because their parents died when

they were young. Therefore, they had to lean on one another for support and comfort. Because

she and her sister Zonnie were the youngest, they had to go live with her oldest sister Pearl until

they were old enough to survive on there own. The bond between them was mutual and the family

ties were strong and meaningful].

What about pets, I like pets and I know that you like pets tell us about your experience?

Response: "I have always like cats more than anything else; we had a dog to, but I would never

play with him, but my cat I would play with her every day and at night. She would come in and

crawl in on me and lie down wherever I was, wherever there was a place for her and me [she and

I land we would have fun. I have always enjoyed things like that . . . [and she sighs].

What was the eating like then?

Response: "Well in my day for supper, which was the last meal, we had greens, beans, and peas

for the vegables [vegetables] and bread as usual [mainly corn bread or flour bread biscuits] and

different other things on the side [such as wild berries (strawberries and huckleberries) that we

could find in the sandy marsh, or the fruit trees (pear, lemon, and fig) that would bear and we

could make pies and jams] we had meats and it was boiled like ribs and they were boiled, not in

a lot of water, they were then put in the oven and they were baked in the oven and some would be

brown and it was good everything back then was good . . . food in their day was better because

they had no laboratory influences and fast growth in the meat industries. They generally reared

their own chickens and hogs for sale and for consumption] we also had fish, oysters, clams, crabs

and such that were out to sea we would not have to bye any of that; because my father would go

to the sound and catch all types of seafood that we could eat without a cost. He would bring

enough to eat after he got done clamming and fishing out to sea for profit. As far as living and

eating we fared back then because we did not have to pay a lot of money for

were offered back then". [ I appreciated food better back than I do today].

a lot of thing that

Interview Analysis

The Important One

By conducting this interview, I really learned a lot from a woman who has lived through

84 years of life and still has the will power to share with me, her life history. Thersia Farrior, my

dear Grandma had a lot to share with me that I will forever cherish for the rest of my life; both in

this interview and story and also, as long as I have known her and shared my life with her as a

child and an adult. By being African-American and going through the war of discrimination and

racism, she has positive images to share with me. According to Cox, "Many would argue, that

the best way to study the problems of older Americans, is to view this group as a minority faced

with the same difficulties that other minority groups are confronted with...like Native Americans,

Mrs. Farrior is a women of strong Christian faith and she believes that God can do

anything, and she patterns her life on her faith. She passed on her tradition of faith to her

children, grandchildren, relatives and community members alike. For most African-American

women and men during the time frame of Mrs. Farriors’ life, it is normal for (we as blacks) to

sing folk songs and have strong faith and believe in God. "We Shall Over Come" is one of the

most important black history song for African-Americans. They sang and dance to let the hurt

and pain surpass the un-equality that was faced daily. Some subjects such as sexuality, health

status, and death she did not go into deep detail as much as the others. Being an elder woman

certain subject you just do not discuss with the public as you would others. These values are

hereditary and some are just innate that you just do not do. Arnold Rose a writer of the book,

Older People and Their Social World, states , ". ..older Americans as a minority group, does

argue, that they could be considered a subculture of American society. He believes, that a

subculture among age groups emerges when members of an age group interact with each other

significantly mnor that they interact with persons in other age categories." Rose also asserts that

elderly people are grouped, into a certain category that have a certain characteristic, "...( 1.) have a

positive affinity for each other, because of such factors as long-standing friendship or common

problems, interests, or concerns, and (2.) are excluded from interaction with other groups in the

population to some significant extent." ( Cox, 52)

Mrs. Farrior, was still very willing to answer the questions, but had a little difficulty at

first in getting her thoughts together. This type of response rate is expected of someone her age

(84). She obviously has some plaques and tangles that causes her to thing a little longer than,

someone like myself. Her appearance was of the up most; She has soft pecan tone skin with lots

of wrinkles, she is of medium height. He has all of her original teeth, which applied pine sap to

kill unwanted germs and plaque. This was the method of dental care for her when she was

growing up. Even though she states that her health is better today at the age of 84, she still show

a few signs of circulatory and muscular problems. She sometimes has pain when moving quickly

in posture. Also, there are signs of varicose veins in her legs from work and strain over the years

in fields and long hours of being a mom to four children. Mrs. Farrior has thick gray Nubian hair

that is often braided and wrapped, and this is apart of her heritage that she wants to keep, as a

reminder of the past.

Mrs. Farrior has some childbirth problems due to problems that she had during her

childhood, but with medical care for several years, she recovered for the pains that she had, (she

chooses not to go into deeper detail about this issue). She was not in a hurry she was very patient

and was very excited about giving the answers to the questions. Because she lives alone now,

after her mate died three years ago, she loves to talk to people and exchange her thoughts and

ides with others. It may take a few minutes for her to get her response together, but she responds

with accuracy and that is what was important to me. According to Cox, " Studies that have

attempted to determine, the precise changes in personality that occur in old age have been

somewhat in conclusive. Some of the findings indicate a considerable shift in personality in later

years, but others have found no change." (Cox, 13 1) Elderly people can think and remember

information , if we would just be patient and understand ,that they can be informants if we just

take the time to listen

The question of the mental health status of older persons is limited by the scarcity of data

and clouded by the various myths that are propagated about their behavior. Older adults just

need to be given a chance to prove themselves. They will exchange what wisdom and history

they have in their lives if you just would ask them. It must be acknowledged, however, that

generally the elderly are active and mentally well-adjusted. Nonetheless, preventive attention

needs to be given to common stresses in old age that can affect emotional and mental health.

Mrs. Farrior demonstrates the, Declining-Energy Theory because she understands that, she can

no longer do as she has in the past , but she is willing to accept, the idea that she must do things

at her own pace. The Declining-Energy Theory states, " the basic belief that . . . an individuals

has a fixed amount of energy or vitality, . . . "also, aging brings a decline in ,energy and vigor."

(Cox, 101) The older persons, undergo various life changes and financial adjustments when they

retire, they experience the loss of spouses and friends, they may be victimized, and they are

subject to health problems and other emotionally difficult experiences.

Community-based older adults tend to have better mental health than those based in

nursing homes. It has been estimated that 56 percent have been diagnosed a suffering from a

mental disorder, but it is really not a disorder, they just need some patients and time given to

them and their conditions as the aged. After she realized that she could remember some of her

life history, she was open to be questioned. What is also, interesting to me about this period,

there were many blacks that were killed and illegally forced to enter the United States. I am

please to be able to interview Mrs. Farrior today in 2002. For Mrs. Farrior to be able to exchange

what she did during her life, is a great part of history, that most of us miss on a daily basis. We as

Americans do not seem to appreciate the gems that are inset around us on a daily basis. The only

way to find the treasures and appreciate what they are worth, you must look at them for what they

really are with clarity and in-depth thought.

During this period of time there was a war of which she could not commit on because

she was boring during that time frame. Blacks were slaves and they had little recorded in books

about their heritage and culture, except for what the held in their hearts and what the whites

chose to write about them at that time. History for most African-Americas are yet to be told,

there are several missing pieces to the puzzle of life for most families that exist today, that is of

the African-Americans race.

During the period of the 1900’s when she was born, the population according to the U.S.

Census of 1910.

U.S. population: 93,402,151

Black population: 9,827,763 which is only (10.7%)

of the whole population in the United States. (U.S. Census 1910)

This ratio shows a narrow count for the number of blacks reported in America at this time. The

lack in the report could be due to lynchings and non response to the Census requirement at this {

time. During the time of the early 1900’s those over 65 made up 4 percent of the total U.S. 3

population and numbered some 3.08 million persons in all. This count could also be bias, 1

because it is not counting all of the people that could illegally, be apart of the United States ? . .

population at this time. By the 1950’s this segment had more than quadrupled to more than 19.2

million persons and doubled its proportion to 11.1 percent of the total population. By the 1980’s

the 65 and older group had more than doubled again to more than 25 million persons and had

grown in proportion to 16.3 percent of the total population. It is projected that by the year 2020

the older populations (65 and over) will number more than 35 million and represent 22.1 percent

of the nation.

As the older population becomes a significant proportion of the total populace, society is

confronted with a variety issues and challenges. Better understanding of the basic nature of the

biological and physiological aspects of the aging process continues to challenge the scientific and

medical field. To look at all of the elderly, and assume that they all are senile and have dementia,

is narrow-minded way of looking at elderly people as a whole. The only primary mental health

problem of the elderly is cognitive impairment. Only about 3 percent of

women have serious problems with this type of impairment. By conducting my interview with

Mrs. Farrior and working with the clients at Cedar Cove Retirement Center, in a Service

Learning Project; I have discovered that most elderly people, once again take a little time getting

their thoughts together, but once they are focused, they can respond to what is being asked or

demonstrated.

Also, through the Service Learning Project and this interview, that there are several

interesting ideas the emerged form working, with the elderly. They have a lot to share with you

on their life and how life was lived and conducted when they were young. There is a small gap in

the space of young adulthood and how elderly people are understood in the world of which we

live. While we are growing old, we must realize that we must "Number Our Days," a quote from

Barbara Myerhoff, and live life to its fullest potential.

The graying of America has become part of the national consciousness and has brought

about a variety of concerns including economic, political, and ethical questions. It has developed

into an extensive and at times, controversial enterprise that reflects a broad rang of professional,

voluntary, private, and public interest and perspectives. Society has responded in various ways

ranging from local self-help groups to national programs of human services and income

maintenance.

Older persons today tend to be independent and self-reliant, utilizing information support

networks along with occasional assistance from the family. Mrs. Farrior is a great example of the

self-reliant elderly, she controls her own finances, but she also takes the help of her children

when she needs to. It is important to let elder people feel like they are continuing life as usual,

and not under restraints. This is defiantly correlation with the Exchange Theory because, with

this theory it allows the elderly person to be apart of society and give apart of their lives and

freedom to express their willingness to stay apart of a working society as we know it. Also,

during the service learning project, I have found that through the social group that was created by

the facility, they tend to exchange ideas and wisdom among themselves. At times they tend to

contradict one another when discussing the subjects of looks and patterns of doing things.

For me as the interviewer, I can see the Role Theory clearly because the theory says that,

"I will always have a position in someone else life and they will partake in a role in my life."

Mrs. Farrior plays the role of grandmother (interviewee) and I play the role of granddaughter

(interviewer). There is a great pattern of roles between the elderly and the rest of society on a

daily basis. We share a common goal and that is to live life to the up most and not think about

dying but living. I will forever keep in mind that the elderly are the important ones in society and

never take them for granted. I do believe that Mrs. Farrior will live to be 97 or 100 years of age.

Women have been know to live approximately 7 years longer than men. I look forward to doing 1

another interview with my Grandmother, in the next years to note the different changes that have 1

taken place in our lives and how the aging process has affected us both.

Bibliography

U.S. Bureau of the Census. (191Oc). Statistical Abstract of the United States, 1900-1910 (1 lOti)

Washington, D.C.: U.S. Government Printing Offm